Hello everyone,
First things first: We saw the results of the poll we did – and the majority of you wants a Version 3. So we will consider making one in 2023.
Even more since we recently realized that our competitor “PearOS” got dark – the Homepage wasn’t reachable anymore for a long time.
The Homepage of them is back again in the meantime, maybe also because of this post.
Now let’s take this as an opportuinity to point out some differences between our two projects.
First of all, i know their Homepage looks fancy. We are more simple structured but rock solid. It just works. And we don’t have Ads on our Homepage. So the fancy PearOS Site comes with the price of being full of Ads. And at the end of the day our both homepages are just a nice way to a download-link for the iso which is what most of you are looking for.
As you know, PearOS’s also switched completely to ArchLinux as their system base since their system “nicec0re” – and their focus is on a system which offers you lot’s of animations, blurs, effects and other stuff.
We on the other hand still and always will use Ubuntu as our system base. Otherwise the name “iBuntu” wouldn’t make sence, we than would have to rename “iArch” or “iDontknow” 😉
So PearOs = ArchLinux, iBuntu = Ubuntu
So in a conclusion what should you choose? If you want ArchLinux and like your system to be experimental, go for PearOS. If you want Ubuntu as a base and like your system to be rock solid and stable, go for iBuntu.
Now a few words to our upcomming Version 3 which will be Gnome-based again, since Catalinux will reach EOL next year. It will be Ubuntu 22.04 based and will have MacOS Monterey as design. And yes, it won’t have a global Menue once again since still, Gnome 3 just doesn’t offer that option.
We also will develop a KDE-Neon based Version that will have the latest LTS-Version of Ubuntu (22.04) as OS-Base, the newest Plasma Release for KDE and Mac Ventura as design pattern. But this will be than “Version 4” and a successor to “Lix Sur” – and since we just released Lix Sur 2.1 I don’t see the need to rush with the next Version right now. We stabilized Lix Sur on Ubuntu 20.04 and got rid of the flaws and bugs Version 2.0 still had. So no need to hurry for yet another KDE-based complex Version.
Ubuntu 18.04 – the base for Catalinux – is reaching “End of Life” by Canonical in April 2023, that means from that time on, it won’t recieve any more updates. And that means we also than will discontinue supporting and advertising Catalinux – and a successor to Catalinux is needed.
So expect Versions 3 to come out before April 2023 – and Version 4 somewhat around Summer.
Like I said, I am not in a hurry here with the KDE-Version, I only will do it because the majority of the voters wanted it but I am totally honest with you, I don’t have stakes in this. I do it because you want it but my heart is and will always be with Gnome.
So long
BOfH
I have noticed in October 2022 that pearOS and it’s website are gone but still I searched for it today just to check if it’s back and found this article of yours: https://ibuntuos.com/pearos-gone/
I am very happy to know that there is another distro which can fulfill the need of Mac and I would definitely suggest others this distro who are looking for something similar to Mac.
But here is a suggestion I wanna give you. You shouldn’t have chosen gnome for this project. Gnome isn’t just suitable much for Mac layouts customization. You should choose KDE and focus on only this one version and make it perfect instead of making two different kde and gnome version. Even the latest version of pearOS was kde based.
So this will be my suggestion for you.
1. Make it debian/ubuntu based.
2. Use KDE as desktop environment.
3. Don’t keep too much bloatware in it.
If you follow 1 and 2 I hope this project will be a great success. Because Ubuntu is easy to use and debian is rock solid. Also all new comers use a distro based on ubuntu cause it easy to use. pearOS latest version was Arch based which wasn’t a good decision. You have to see everything from the users perception.
However there is Zorin Pro which offer a Mac layout which is not nearly as Mac so I have given them some advice to make it better and I have received a positive response from them too. Anyway Zorin uses gnome and I know gnome won’t be able to make something similar to Mac. Ubuntu Budgie is another distro which is also like Mac with a upper panel and a bottom dock but none of these too is close enough to pearOS.
If you wanna be familiar to Linux community as an alternative of Mac, create it using KDE. As you are not gonna focus on lightweightness, kde desktop will give you a lightweight desktop environment by default.
A good example is NitruxOS. They really made something different. I really liked there bottom dock. It’s so beautiful. I hope you will bring a beautiful dock like that too. But what I didn’t like is their upper panel and it’s not a big deal for them because they tried something different and that panel does something different and new. I am hoping you will do better on that part because you are not gonna do something different, you gonna make it like Mac.
Let me know your thoughts about my opinion. Good luck with this project 😊
Thanks for your comment. But did you REALLY read my article? Did you research from where we came from and what we stand for?
First of all – your first point – eh, yeah, thanks for the advice. This is kinda the reason wie are calling us “iBuntu” – since we are using ubuntu as a base since 2017. Makes sense? I hope so 🙂
My response to your point 2 will be long, so I will first go to your point 3. “Don’t keep too much bloatware in it.” Clearly, you haven’t really engaged with what we’re doing. Because if so, than you would have known, that we don’t use “Bloatware” in any kind at all. Not a single bit. We also ways reduce the amount of included software to a bare minimum.
I try to keep polite and don’t get offended by your “suggestions” since I really just think, you dind’t know about us and also didn’t do any research about us so you were just asuming we would fill our OS with Bloatware.
Anyway, let’s go on with the second point of your suggestions, to focus only on KDE.
PearOS might was our competitor but as I stated many, many MAAAANY times before, the main difference between us always was, that they were kind of experimental and unstable. The fact that they went dark certainly proofs that.
While we on the other hand focus on stability and reliability.
And that’s exactly why we use Gnome. That’s why we will continue to use Gnome. Gnome is stable. Gnome is easy, lightweighted and yes, it’s hard to customize. But here is the thing: Our Goal is not to create an OS which is easy to customize. Is MacOS easy to customize? No, so why should we be?
My honest question to you would be, where do you see the REAL advantages from KDE over Gnome? You know what I don’t want to hear from you now, right? Please nothing about Global Menues, not a single word xD
But for the record the sentence “kde desktop will give you a lightweight desktop environment by default.” made me almost fall of my chair laughing. KDE and “lightweight” – the joke of the year 😀
You know, as a programmer, I define “lightweighted” in the sense of the meaning. Not that you only have a few options for customizations and less menues. I define it by looking under the roof, checking the running daemons, processes, threads, how much things are running parallel. And I know NX Desktop. They use the same blown up Plasma KDE like all the others yet they just hide many things from the user to make it look “leightweighted” while in the background still it runs all the stuff and things which makes it in fakt typically KDE-unstable. I am using Gnome and KDE since more than 25 years now, my first KDE-Installation dates back to 1997, my first Gnome installation was somewhere around 2001 (KDE came out 1996, Gnome 1999 so I was an early adopter on both environments). Trust me: I have enough life experiance to found my decisions based on many years of working with these systems.
And since “iBuntu” is 95% just for my own purposes, only for me to have a nice OS I can work with which look and feels very similar to mac – I am the only one I have to convince myself. After I finish my work for myself I am just graciously share this work with all of you.
And yes, of course I take some wishes and demands in account. But certainly no wished which would change the complete course and focus of this project. Since – once again: The main person I am doing all this for is myself. And you are invited to participate in. But please stop trying to convince me how great KDE is. I even would not like if you would try to convince me how great Gnome is and tell me that I should drop KDE. I also wouldn’t do that, since, like I said, this 5% left, where I do things for you in the community, make me do a KDE-Version. So I won’t drop KDE and also I won’t drop Gnome – not gonna happen 🙂
Calm down brother, I don’t understand this immature behavior of yours! Why you got so offended and become mad at me! I have said before I didn’t know this OS even exist. I have found this article while checking for the pearOS if it is back again. I didn’t know it is a personal project. Otherwise I wouldn’t bother myself to give you suggestion. Because community projects always looking for suggestion and feedback from the user. But this personal project is only to satisfy you.
The main reason I told you to use kde is because it is easy to customize than gnome. Even the last version of pearOS was based on kde. Even though distrowatch was saying it is based on gnome but after installing I was saw that pearOS NiceC0re was using kde. However gnome is fine for stability. And forgive my bad choice of word because I wanted to say kde use less ram than gnome although it uses more cpu than gnome.
I told you about bloatware because I saw the iso file was larger than 5GB. I haven’t checked this distro by myself as I just found it today. I just said, in case there is bloatware please remove it because I have seen some distro with bloatware.
Anyway, if you are making it for yourself then I have nothing more to say. If you are making it for you then as far as you are happy for it, it’s fine. Others opinion don’t matter.
“Immature behaviour”? Watch your tongue. I speak my mind freely because I am a german, we are straight forward, maybe that’s what offend many people but I rather get things off from my chest than speak behind the bush. You think I am mad at you? No, I am not. I am straight forward, that’s a difference.
First of all, the “PearOS” Distrowatch is listing, isn’t the PearOS which developed NiceC0re. The guy who invented this is a complete different guy and just used the name of the old, long abandoned “real” PearOS-Project which in fact was gnome based.
And this project isn’t “only to satisfy” me. Sure, it’s main reason is, so that I have a stable, nice looking OS and that I than will share to others. But if it would be “only” to satisfy me, I wouldn’t go through the trouble and make it installable and usable on other systems rather than my own.
And read what I wrote, don’t get offended so easily – I clearly said I am taking suggestions and feedback into account. But allow me to reply to your suggestions and explain why they are either false assumptions (e.g. “Bloatware”) or just not fitting my goals.
I mean what would you expect if you would write the developers of elementary OS they should drop all their development on their own desktop environment and rather switch to KDE? Right, I am sure they either wouldn’t reply to you at all or they would explain to you, why they won’t do that. Just what I did.
I only have to say, I appreciate feedback and suggestions. But not based on assumptions.
By the way I did a poll here (which this news article also stated), you can find it in the previous post. There the results show, that sure, a majority want’s a KDE-Version (which is why I will make one), but it’s more like 60:40. So I certainly won’t dissapoint 40% of our users who like the gnome-based “Catalinux” distribution, by now only focus on KDE.
If you like KDE – great, check out Lix Sur 2.1 – and if you like it you can feel happy that there will be a new KDE-Version Ubuntu 22.04 and KDE-Neon based next year. 60% of our users feel the same. But for the other 40% we also will develop a new Gnome-Based Version.
I am not a fan of KDE or something like that. Even I have never used any KDE-based distro. It was either gnome or Xfce. However, there are some features in KDE that will everyone love.
1. Vault – I have searched a lot but wasn’t able to find any folder locker/hider for Linux while there are plenty amount of this kinda software available for windows. I have seen it only on KDE.
2. Clipboard – Well, we can actually have this on Gnome too but for that, we have to go through some hassle while it comes pre-installed in KDE.
3. File manager – Nautilus is good but Dolphin has some more useful features. we can install it on Gnome but the problem is gtk themes don’t work on it.
And finally, KDE looks beautiful.
Anyway, I am really eager to see the gnome-based Mac because I haven’t seen anything like that till now. Even though using dash to panel and ArkMenu it wasn’t possible to create something similar to Mac level on gnome. There is a lacking of a suitable dock in the gnome store. When iUbuntu 3.0 releases I would definitely try it out.
The last thing is, a few moments ago I checked the iUbuntu 2.1 on my PC and I found something unusual and….I don’t know what can be the proper word for it. Do you want me to inform you about those? If yes then I will send you those through email. Because I have to add some images and that is something I can not do in this comment section.
See, that’s just the thing, tastes are so different. A member of my small team for example loves the nautilus browser and wanted it to be in Lix Sur but that created lot of problems. And I don’t have any favorit here so I just went with the solution which ddn’t cause bugs and that was stay with Dolphin in KDE.
Yes, if you have discovered any kind of bugs it would be great if you mail them to us at ibuntu(at)protonmail.com
Hey! Hope you’re doing well. So I just discovered iBuntu today, after using Linux for more than a year now (lol) and here I’m now pretty happy to see that this project is actively maintained. It’s sad to see pearOS disappear but yeah, it happens.
So here’s my questions:
1. I’ve checked that you’re using (and gonna use in the next version) GNOME 3 still now. Why is that? Why we aren’t getting GNOME 40 or 40 up?
2. Where’s the source code of iBuntu? Is it not open source? Or is it a modified version of Ubuntu ISO and that’s why there’s no source code? I’m assuming the second one is correct.
3. How can we help you/contribute to your project other than donating?
4. Do you think that iBuntu should be highlighted more?
5. What happened to the previous website? Give me some brief.
And lastly…
6. What’s your thought on Germany can’t make it on FIFA World Cup 2022? 🙂
Hope that you’ll not attack me as I just landed on your website for the first time ever. Cheers! 🙂
Hi.
1. We use Ubuntu 22.04 as a base. That means the Gnome of Ubuntu 22.04 which is actual Gnome 3.42. So it’s a misassumption “Gnome 42” would not be related to Gnome 3. It’s just the 42th Sub-Version of Gnome 3.
2. iBuntu is Open Source. But our style of work is different. Look, we take a pure naked Ubuntu 22.04 – here is the source for your source code of the operation system: the Ubuntu Source code. Than we adapt styles and themes – everything linked in our Release Notes, so that people can see, which themes we are using. Their source code is on their projects, since we don’t change there themes. And things where we code a bit of own stuff, like our iBuntu Update Tool, we have in our Github: https://github.com/ibuntuos
3. If you can’t donate to us that’s fine – than test our OS out and if you like it, spread the news 🙂
4. Sure – maybe just please not on reddit, they hate us there and I really can’t stand it anymore that people coming to us wanting a Shitstorm about how “illegal” it would be that we use MacOS Styles (which is complete BS since you can adapt this styles with a bit of knowledge on the free and legal KDE-Store for example but haters gonna hate xD)
5. Which “previous website”? You mean the one we had from 2017-2019? We hosted it on jimdo. Than out of the suddon it went dark. We than migrated here to self-hosting. After that, jimdo restored the website after we made clear that what we do is not illegal in any kind. So they restored it but since we were already completely transformed here, we abondoned it. You can still see the old website here: https://ibuntu.jimdofree.com/ It’s just no longer maintained by us.
6. I’m glad our stupid soccer team lost at the World Cup. They made Clowns of themselves and talked more about Gestures and which armband they should wear to show how much they love the LGBTQ-Community, no joke. Everyone laughed at us and the team was only focussed on that instead of sport. And after they lost thankfully, the world laughed even more and NOW the media here asks “should we have focussed more on sports instead politics”? I don’t want to get political here – but German society sucks these days, we call it “Clownworld” – so our Clown-Soccer-Team just got, what it deserved, they had it comming 😀
So, that’s my reply – hope you don’t feel “attacked” or anything, i already stated to Tasin, that’s not my intention xD
Thanks for the reply. Will try to spread the news for sure 😀
Btw here’s one last question that I forgot (and maybe this comment section isn’t right for it), any social media page where we can follow the development of iBuntu (yeah I’m not talking about mailing list)? If there’s nothing, why not create one? Maybe a Youtube channel or Discord server will be fine to see. Cheers mate! 🙂
A Discord-Server or Telegram-Group etc. needs Maintenance which I can’t provide. And getting a volunteer to do that would mean I would have to find someone who I can trust blindly that he acts and thinks exactly like me. That I don’t see yet xD
We have a Youtube-Channel where we also hosted our Tutorial-Video for our iBuntu Update Tool. But beside from that we don’t have content there – same reason: It would need a Social Media Team for that, I simply don’t have any time for this. The few minutes every day I have for just reply to comments here is all I can spare 🙂
I can help you if you want. Worked as a community manager for a long time! :’D
Thanks again for the reply btw.